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Posted: Feb 1 2010, 05:04 PM
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since i suspect most of y'all are conservative i thought i wold give you a view from the other side i would agree with eli who in another thread said obama is continuing on to many of bush's policies i agree,guessing different reasons, mostly civil liberties and war for me he is governing from a centrist place and i am tired of voting for a candidate that i hoped would be more liberal but ends up being like clinton tied with big business but anyway the other views link |
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Posted: Feb 2 2010, 09:19 AM
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Will kill for chocolate.
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lol Not taking that bait. No way I want to read about how disappointed people are that Obama wasn't the great saviour they made him out to be. No one could have lived up to the outrageous expectations some people had of him. Sorry Rol. |
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Posted: Feb 2 2010, 09:40 AM
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Well, one year on and he hasn't gone "what does this big red button do?" For the commander in chief of a nation that has 2,200 nuclear weapons I take that as a result. |
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Posted: Feb 2 2010, 05:09 PM
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dark i never expected the great saviour and if you read those most didn't that's not to say some thought he might be and some folks i talk to don't like the criticism from the left personally i like to keep up with what the right thinks and its easier to keep up with generally it gets more coverage |
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Posted: Feb 2 2010, 07:13 PM
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There were many here in Kansas City who expected Barry O to be the great messiah. Many still claim he is. But they say so in more muted voices these days. I don't give him any credit for not pushing the BIG RED, Flem ... you can't move a nation back to left of center (and never to the full left) if you are known as the World Killer. That would even tarnish a messiah. |
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Posted: Feb 2 2010, 10:50 PM
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I am capable of physically dominating you
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well I voted for Ron Paul.... you know he would have been better on civil liberties and foreign entanglements at the very least.... at the very most we'd abolish the federal government altogether :w00t: |
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Posted: Feb 3 2010, 05:02 AM
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Wickedly Evil One
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I think the results we got are about what we could expect for a guy with zero experience ever doing anything other than being an activist and a really good after dinner speaker. He'd have been better off putting everyone on Medicare than bending over for the Insurance companies, Trial Lawyers, and so called moderate Democrats on health care, at least that would have got everyone covered. Now he's squandered his political capital on an obvious grab for $ and will never recover from it. His energy policies are the route to third world status. The good news is he'll be rich when he gets out of office and can be a icon for the so called liberals parading as Democrats, write books and tell everyone that we blew it by not following his plan for empowering actuaries and lawyers. ROL, stop watching Fox News, everyone else in the press thought he was the messiah last year at this time, don't know what you watch/read. I can certainly understand all the press being down on him now, he has proven himself to be the fraud that most liberals are when they get the $ waved in front of them. He'd better govern from the center from now on if he wants to get re-elected, think 1994=2010 in midterm elections after the attempted voter shakedown of Obamacare. It'd be nice to elect someone one day that has the interests of the country at heart instead of an interest group or an interlocking set of interest groups as their core constituency. The problem in my view is that they're institutionalized and are the only way to get anything done. |
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Posted: Feb 3 2010, 06:38 PM
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we agree about medicare don't watch fox mostly npr and the newshour(pbs) and the occasional msm read the nation( my favorite mag) get ny times online and read ajc on line the newstrust is a great news aggregator for me nukes are a non-starter oil probably has reached its peak and not enough in new fields to make big difference so i read plus we need to quit financing muslim radicals thats enough before my hand starts cramping i'm not realm where is he |
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Posted: Feb 3 2010, 07:23 PM
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Bartender extraordinaire
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It's always been intriguing to me to listen to people talk about what they expect will happen after an election,especially an American one,because so much prestige is placed on the position of President of the United States.When it comes up for grabs,people are always told that this candidate or that candidate,no matter who they are,will change their lives for the better to such an extent that voting for someone else would be madness.Yet in reality,once someone becomes President,their actual ability to do even 10% of what they promised to do,is hampered by the system of governance below them,i.e Congress and the Senate.Even Obama,with massive majorities in both houses and the largest political mandate in electoral history,can barely pass legislation that only half achieves what he said he would try and do before his election.It is democracy's fatal flaw,in that it is a system that is designed to give people as much power as possible to change the way that their governments are run,and yet this same power will always paralyse any sitting President in doing what he/she thinks is right,in the fear they will be replaced by someone else if his/her plans aren't universally agreed on. |
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Posted: Feb 4 2010, 06:27 AM
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Wickedly Evil One
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The French seem to do ok with nuclear power. Might be an old prejudice there ROL?? It is both the blessing and the curse of this type of representative republic. We don't have a democracy in the US. The leader is both head of state and chief executive but can't do anything without the legislature approving, makes it very difficult to pass legislation, good or bad. This time it has prevented the bad, and it the point could be made that the bad bill they put for was an effort at compromise, but in the end it was a poor effort and failed. As it should have failed. |
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Posted: Feb 4 2010, 05:18 PM
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reprocessing doesn't solve the problem clean coal, from what i have read is an oxymoron and yes the founders feared 'mob rule' |
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Posted: Feb 10 2010, 02:08 PM
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I was feeling a bit down today ... until I saw this in an email from a friend ... http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collectio...s/missmeyet.jpg For everyone tired of the political bickering ... this is a HOOT! |
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Posted: Feb 10 2010, 02:17 PM
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Wickedly Evil One
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I fear mob rule but it is certainly what we have. |
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Posted: Feb 10 2010, 04:38 PM
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an old college buddy sent me that last week and no i see more rule by money than by the people |
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Posted: Feb 10 2010, 06:16 PM
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I see more posturing to determine who will control the money ... which is the scariest form of government I can imagine at this time. And since they all function this way, they all worry me. Even so ... I prefer the group that thinks my money is MY money instead of THEIR money. |
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Posted: Feb 11 2010, 06:06 PM
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Posted: Feb 11 2010, 08:36 PM
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lol. What few realize these days is this: no matter who crams what into where, it's the people who vote for the passage of the bill who are to blame. If the rePUBS ham it up and then vote FOR passage, even I will call them hypocrites. However, if the Dems see that the rePUBS have loaded a bunch of crap and vote FOR the thing anyway just to piss a little farther, then I can't blame the rePUBS. Give the hypocrite button to the idiots who vote for this sh*#. |
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Posted: Feb 12 2010, 10:10 AM
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Wickedly Evil One
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The Dems voted against it till there guy got in there then voila!! enlightenment! |
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